Housing for Asylum Seekers vs. US Vets

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Housing for Asylum Seekers vs. US Vets

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This image was created for social media to compare the burden of refugees to the burden of homeless veterans, to influence viewers about refugees.
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This is propaganda because it oversimplifies both situations, and capitalizes on the hardships of veterans, which are/were rarely spoken of outside the context of refugees. It also seeks to enrage supporters of veterans by showing what is meant to be a veteran sitting on the ground in the cold while supposed refugees stroll out of a nice building, laughing.

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    Emily DiBenedetto
    čet, 02/04/2016 - 23:36
    Emily DiBenedetto
    i think this is harmful because the reason the refugees are refugees is because their own government is harmful, so they are coming over here for help. They didn't ask to be put like that or do anything wrong, they are victims. Many American people are homeless because of drug addiction or something like that, we don't know, so it's unfair to compare the two because they're coming from different backgrounds.
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    Alyssa
    čet, 02/04/2016 - 23:37
    Alyssa
    I thought this was harmful propaganda because while it is important to help homeless veterans, it is also important to help people seeking asylum. This propaganda makes it seem like it is an either/or situation which is not the case at all.
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    Cdale speak the truth
    pet, 02/05/2016 - 02:33
    Cdale speak the truth
    The veterans got there by probably not getting a job after. They had a chance but asylum seekers never had as good of a chance as the veterans and this makes the US seem unwelcoming.
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    jack
    pet, 02/05/2016 - 04:11
    jack
    this is sad... The ones who serve our country get treated worse than the ones who are running from their fears.
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    faith dircks
    pet, 02/05/2016 - 05:29
    faith dircks
    I think this helps people understand that maybe what we really need to do is help those inside our own borders first and then help those on the outside. These veterans risked their lives for our safety, but we aren't doing anything to help them.
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    Sydney Kitzmiller
    pet, 02/05/2016 - 08:14
    Sydney Kitzmiller
    I think that is is somewhat harmful because is it not as black and white and the picture depicts it to be. Yes, is is aweful that our own heroes are living on the street, but there might be underlying reasons.
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    Claire
    pet, 02/05/2016 - 22:22
    Claire
    I think this is harmful to an extent because it over simplifies a very complex situation. The treatment of refugees and the treatment if veterans are both very important topics, and they're incredibly complex and have many variables at play, so I think this is harmful because it's not this black and white.
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    Anthony
    pet, 02/05/2016 - 22:27
    Anthony
    A disgrace?!? Making negative assumptions towards asylum seekers and promoting homeless housing is incredibly unethical. You don't know what either of them have been through. Assumptions like this should never be made.
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    Sydney h
    pet, 02/05/2016 - 23:14
    Sydney h
    The propaganda uses pictures that are emotional and is quick and to the point
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    Abby
    sub, 02/06/2016 - 01:27
    Abby
    I thought s was somewhat harmful. It shows the problem of homeless veterans, but it goes about it in a wrong way. This could have been more effective had they not been negative to another group of people.
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    Lauren Caldrone
    sub, 02/06/2016 - 01:57
    Lauren Caldrone
    I think this could be harmful because it oversimplifies a topic that has way more depth than shown in this propaganda.
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    Cassidy
    sub, 02/06/2016 - 23:00
    Cassidy
    This is harmful because it provides no evidence or facts and tries to simplify the information.
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    Stephanie C
    ned, 02/07/2016 - 02:27
    Stephanie C
    I believe that this is harmful because it is to broad for both sides and is completely oversimplified.
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    Dan
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 04:38
    Dan
    I think that this is just taking the extremes of booths side of the equation. The pictures could possibly not be of what they say they are too. The people on the top could have been born here, and the guy on the bottom could be just some random guy.
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    Gracie I
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 07:33
    Gracie I
    This is oversimplifying the situations
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    Sara
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 20:23
    Sara
    this is effective because it makes people feel for veterans especially since they've fought for our country and are being treated like this.
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    Adam G.
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 20:26
    Adam G.
    This is not very beneficial for us because they are over-simplifying the situation at hand. It's not just war veterans that are on the streets, but anyways there are still many veterans living normal, every-day life. Lots of asylum seekers are on the streets as well, not a lot are living in luxury hotels.
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    Chyna C
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 22:56
    Chyna C
    This Image uses Pathos because it makes people feel upset that homeless refugees dont get good shelter while refugees get luxury homes. This is also Bandwagon because it says share if you think this is a disgrace. If people see that others think this is bad , they will too.
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    Clifton189
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 23:06
    Clifton189
    This is an example of propaganda because to me, I think that the person who made this image just found two pictures of someone in a house and someone on the street and gave them a title of veteran and asylum seeker. So this probably is not even truth. I find this to be slightly harmful because it can effect the people inside of this image because of them being accused of being someone that they're not. They might not even be a asylum seeker or veteran.
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    ceyonnasoftball
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 23:11
    ceyonnasoftball
    This ad is bringing attention to veterans that aren't treated very well, the person who created this ad is using pathos and maybe some exaggeration to make the viewers feel bad for homeless vets. Not all veterans are homeless, there are also many shelters available in cities open to people who are homeless and several benefits for veterans so this isn't entirely true. People who are seeking rehab get nicer places because they're probably paid for by family members or were assigned to rehab or jail.
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    Avery
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 23:13
    Avery
    I'm really in the middle about this picture. On one hand I feel like the United States needs to focus on it's own before it mend broken relationships with other countries. But another part of me thinks that a lot of good could and will come from the housing and assistance of refugees. We're getting a lot of global recognition for it which could to good things. Veterans are extremely important as well and the U.S. does need to focus on then just as much. That it why I gave the rating that I did.
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    Aurion
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 23:15
    Aurion
    The images used may not be a "homeless veteran" or a "refugee". You don't truly know if the states are true being compared to the image. This advertisement uses pathos, trying to get an emotion appeal from the reader. The statement "Share if you think this is a disgrace" allows the image to be passed through social media influencing the persons view on refugees and the approach the government takes by helping them.
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    arbschrader
    pon, 02/08/2016 - 23:19
    arbschrader
    The images invoke both ethos and logos by using the suffering of homeless people and the injustices they face against the already controversial image of Syrian refugees. The ad also uses pressure points like wealth and equality to simplify the situation shown above and invoke a reaction from the audience. This is too important of an issue to be over simplified like this, and should be analyzed in depth from both sides of the crisis.
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    Krishna
    uto, 02/09/2016 - 01:04
    Krishna
    This propaganda is middle ground between beneficial and harmful because it persuades others to help the veterans receive what they deserve but is cruel to asylum seekers.
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    Vlad Ilie
    uto, 02/09/2016 - 01:08
    Vlad Ilie
    I think this was made to grab attention, or manipulate people to give attention, thus it is harmless, yet harmful.
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    Brendan D
    uto, 02/09/2016 - 01:11
    Brendan D
    This example of propaganda is focusing on the feelings of Americans. All Americans are proud of their veterans, so they would all want to support veterans when they are in a time of need.
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    Jacob Gilbert-Mahoney
    uto, 02/09/2016 - 01:34
    Jacob Gilbert-Mahoney
    This propaganda makes both an appeal to pathos and ethos. It makes an emotional appeal to the feelings of patriotism by reminding the audience of how America has seemingly forgotten and outright rejected the wellbeing of their patriots. It also makes an appeal to the ethics and morals involved of favoring immigrants over accustomed citizens. The more popular refugee issue abroad has seemingly overshadowed the importance of dealing with our unemployment and poverty issue at home. It also invites the viewer into sharing the story if they believe it is wrong, making an appeal to one's morals. It also creates a hasty generalization, as it suggests that every asylum seeker has been given a home in a luxury hotel, while also suggesting that every homeless veteran has been ignored by the government.
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    Alyssa Schulwitz
    uto, 02/09/2016 - 02:03
    Alyssa Schulwitz
    This propaganda appeals to both ethos and pathos because it shows that veterans who have fought for our country should not be living on the streets, they should be given better treatment, because they did risk their lives in order to protect our country. It appeals to pathos because people get enraged and are upset about seeing certain people on the streets, especially a veteran, compared to an asylum seeker, who is housed in a luxury hotel. It also uses logos because it says "share if you think this is a disgrace," and using social media, in hopes of a few likes or genuinely trying to shed light on homeless veterans.
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    tazmara doctor
    uto, 02/09/2016 - 02:05
    tazmara doctor
    this ad appeals to ethos and and pathos and the point within the picture gets across. this appeals to emotions because its a since of nationalism and a i kind of owe you feeling because they fought for us and we are just leaving them on the street like there nothing because asylum people need a place to stay. it also impact our morals how do we choose immigrants over our soldier and it appeals to pathos because it suggest that people are being ignored.
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    NUM NUM
    uto, 02/09/2016 - 02:12
    NUM NUM
    This is an effective propaganda because it uses pathos and ethos. It is so true how many veterans are out here homeless and no one wants to help them, even though they fought for this country to keep us safe. But you have asylum seekers getting special treatment and they have done nothing for our country. It doesn't make sense and this ad should really open people's eyes about the situation.
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    Scoobert Doo
    uto, 02/09/2016 - 02:23
    Scoobert Doo
    This ad was effective with its use of ethos and pathos. It immediately makes you think and the statement made is so true. Jerry could go kill four ten year olds and plead insanity and is later placed in a lavish Sanitarium; On the other hand Donald, who served his country in battle, is living on the side of the road and hoping to get government assistance is turned down and dies of influenza. criminals are treated better than "heroes" there is definitely something wrong with that.
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    Zoe Hodge
    uto, 02/09/2016 - 02:53
    Zoe Hodge
    This propaganda uses pathos to get their point across because of the word choice. If you don't share it, then you must not think that it is a disgrace, and you have no problem with veterans being homeless. You are being persuaded to share it because if you don't, then you are going against American values.
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    Spencer
    sri, 02/10/2016 - 02:15
    Spencer
    This is a ridiculous piece of propaganda, largely as it is based off of false premises. There is no evidence from the first picture that those are asylum seekers, nor is there any indication the second picture is of a homeless veteran. However, this is still an extremely effective ad, as it appeals to both nationalism and a sense of empathy. People see this post and get outraged, which is the goal of it, so it is rather effective.
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    Birnela Heganovic
    pet, 02/12/2016 - 02:13
    Birnela Heganovic
    This ad uses pathos and false premise to make very patriotic Americans upset about how the Americans who fought for the country they live in, get treated poorly, while the people who were fighting against America, or the people of other countries are living in America, in better conditions than the Americans. This is false premise because there is no proof that either one of the pictures is actually who it says they are. There are no facts supporting the statements.
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    Danny R
    sri, 02/01/2017 - 22:40
    Danny R
    I believe that this piece is harmful because it presents supporting homeless veterans and supporting refugees as a one-or-the-other issue, which is inaccurate. It also attempts to stir up anti-refugee sentiment, implying that they are partly to blame for the fact that many veterans are homeless.
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    Kayley
    čet, 02/02/2017 - 03:18
    Kayley
    Somewhat beneficial- a lot of people would be upset seeing the veterans like that.
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    Emily
    čet, 02/02/2017 - 23:38
    Emily
    This is somewhat beneficial because it is raising awareness for homeless veterans, but it is harmful because it is putting down the asylum seekers.
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    Bridget
    čet, 02/02/2017 - 23:39
    Bridget
    This is harmful because it's saying that asylum seekers are less worthy of safety than US veterans. I believe it depends on the life choices they have made to get them to that point.
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    Tyler
    čet, 02/02/2017 - 23:39
    Tyler
    This is terrible, we treat those with nothing as we should, but we don't treat those who have served and given us everything even their lives.
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    Lexie
    pet, 02/03/2017 - 00:08
    Lexie
    I thought it was in the middle of beneficial and harmful because yes homeless veterans should get homes after serving our country but asylum seekers are also mentally ill and need certain environments to live.
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    Mary Stahlman
    pon, 02/06/2017 - 01:57
    Mary Stahlman
    I think that this is beneficial overall because veterans do need to be helped. They served our country, and we should be helping these heroes first before we take in other groups. Although it makes a bold statement, I don't think that they should be putting refugees down in order to bring another group up.
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    William Radford
    pon, 02/06/2017 - 03:35
    William Radford
    I think that this is in the middle of beneficial and harmful because what they said is sometimes true. The picture seems to just show hate towards refugees and not really show much regard to homeless veterans.
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    Alexa
    pon, 02/06/2017 - 08:52
    Alexa
    I think this is inbetween harmful and beneficial because although it is beneficial for raising awareness for the veterans, it is also puts negativity towards asylum seekers.
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    Cassie
    uto, 02/07/2017 - 00:53
    Cassie
    This could be neutral because it is attempting to help someone but it is also hurting someone else.
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    Oliwia
    pet, 02/02/2018 - 03:20
    Oliwia
    I think this image shows that we must help our veterans just as much as we help asylum seekers. Both had to go through traumatic experiences and both deserve good living conditions.
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    Jessica Wells
    sub, 02/03/2018 - 00:37
    Jessica Wells
    This advertisement is harmful because it is saying that people with a mental illness don’t deserve to be treated in a nice environment.
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    Paula
    pet, 06/25/2021 - 00:06
    Paula
    You can’t compare the two. It is sad and disgusting in both situations. Are we helping both the refugees and the veterans, but having some vets falling through the cracks?
    I have a sister who is mentally ill. It is hard to help them since they feel like the prescribed drugs make them feel they are not al here. They then self medicate with illegal drugs.
    You cannot force anyone to take meds they don’t want no matter how hard you try since they are adults. Unless they understand they have a problem and they seek help, there is nothing anyone can do for them.

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