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This oversimplifies and unfairly represents what the assignment is teaching. This assignment was most likely teaching students the skill of estimation. For that reason, the student's thinking, while accurate, did not show mastery of the skill.
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This is an example of a Common Core math problem. It is an example that was uploaded to social media in which it appears to show bad teaching and concepts for children to be learning in school.

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    Ryan Howe
    jeu 04/02/2016 - 23:28
    Ryan Howe
    I believe that this was beneficial because it's showing how ridiculous teachers I this day and age can be. How could a teacher do this to a kid that's learning how to do subtraction, just to tell them that they are wrong.
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    Jessica
    jeu 04/02/2016 - 23:39
    Jessica
    i think this propaganda is harmful to the way people view the education system. It's implying the teacher was overlooking the math that the student did and refused to give them points, when in reality the student didn't follow the instructions the teacher gave the class. It was a innocent mistake the student made, and the teacher was just doing his/her job at helping the student understand and follow instructions.
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    Tyler
    ven 05/02/2016 - 01:19
    Tyler
    This picture is unfair. It creates a dislike for education in society and is therefore harmful.
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    Wilma
    ven 05/02/2016 - 02:26
    Wilma
    This could be slightly dangerous because the other parents could be concerned about their child's education because they think that their kids arent getting proper education
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    Cdale_xx_legitn3$$100
    ven 05/02/2016 - 02:26
    Cdale_xx_legitn3$$100
    I wrote somewhat harmful because this was probably showing the skill of rounding not exact subtraction
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    Krishna
    ven 05/02/2016 - 02:28
    Krishna
    I feel this is harmful to education as it misguides parents to think their children's teachers are unreasonable when in reality, the student was not following directions.
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    Preis
    ven 05/02/2016 - 02:29
    Preis
    I believe that That this was harmful because it shows that the teacher was not teaching the concept very well at all.
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    Jeremiah
    ven 05/02/2016 - 02:33
    Jeremiah
    This can be harmful because if the teacher was teaching estimations, it would be harmful
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    Colleen
    ven 05/02/2016 - 03:12
    Colleen
    This is pretty harmful because the math was correct. I think the teacher shouldn't had taken a point off because the student was correct.
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    shawna stokes
    ven 05/02/2016 - 03:12
    shawna stokes
    we thought this was harmful because the student did the problem right from what we can see
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    Jack
    ven 05/02/2016 - 03:12
    Jack
    This isn't really harming anyone nor benefitting. It just shows an opinion against education.
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    Emma
    ven 05/02/2016 - 03:12
    Emma
    while this is showing an opinion against school education practices, it is not totally harmful because it's not directly harming anyone.
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    Jack Ankony
    ven 05/02/2016 - 03:12
    Jack Ankony
    I thought this was harmful because the teacher shouldn't have taken a point off because what the student did was correct, it just didn't display the math skill they were practicing.
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    Eric
    ven 05/02/2016 - 03:12
    Eric
    I though this was harmful because it is the correct answer so points shouldn't haven't been marked off but instead the teacher should have commented that they were focusing on estimation instead of marking the student.
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    Elise
    ven 05/02/2016 - 03:12
    Elise
    Although this is showing an opinion against common core and education standards in America today it technically isn't hurting anyone.
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    Sydney Kitzmiller
    ven 05/02/2016 - 08:03
    Sydney Kitzmiller
    I think that it is somewhat beneficial, obviously they wrote that to make you think that it was absurd. But I would want to know more about what the question was asking.
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    Anthony
    ven 05/02/2016 - 22:20
    Anthony
    I don't find this to be all that harmful. I don't find this to be worthy of a post on Facebook. For all we know it could've been a misunderstanding. However, I do feel that the question is terrible because it basically asks you to give a wrong answer.
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    Mark
    ven 05/02/2016 - 22:22
    Mark
    I think this is slightly harmful because it's showing that the student got the question wrong even though they solved it in a correct, but different way.
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    Ethan
    ven 05/02/2016 - 23:22
    Ethan
    I don't think this is very harmful or beneficial because it doesn't offend a big group
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    Stefanie Flynn
    sam 06/02/2016 - 01:54
    Stefanie Flynn
    I think this is right in the middle of the spectrum because it can be argued both ways. It is harmful to teachers because it can make them look like they are failing to do their jobs but it is helpful to students to reinforce that they should know what is going on in their kid's life in school.
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    Stephanie C
    dim 07/02/2016 - 02:20
    Stephanie C
    I think that this is slightly harmful because it makes it sound like the teacher is trying to teach them the wrong way to do math when in reality it was probably just learning how to estimate.
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    Dan
    lun 08/02/2016 - 04:42
    Dan
    This picture like many doesn't tell the whole truth. While it isn't lying, it is being subjective about what the viewer sees. The problem is probably testing the students ability to estimate, and the student didn't do that.
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    Avery
    lun 08/02/2016 - 22:55
    Avery
    This ad is bringing awareness to the ridiculous new common core curriculum. They're requiring students to round numbers that could just be calculated using the exact amounts. It doesn't make sense and the woman that posted this is right.
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    Kalvon H-M
    lun 08/02/2016 - 23:00
    Kalvon H-M
    This propaganda ad can be a form pathos just because its demonstrating how children may not be learning anything in school which might bring some emotion to parents.
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    JessieW
    lun 08/02/2016 - 23:05
    JessieW
    This is propaganda because it uses dicto simpliciter. This over simplifies the situation into being that because it is common core it isn't the child's fault. Also it makes a false analogy because just because this is a common core test doesn't make the test the reason that the child doesn't know the material.
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    Aleah Denae
    lun 08/02/2016 - 23:06
    Aleah Denae
    I understand how this ad is one-sided about Common Core and only showing the negatives of it, however there are many ridiculous aspects in Common Core and the public should be aware of it. It uses the logical fallacy of "Poisoning the Well" by already portraying Common Core to be a bad thing however people should try and experience it for themselves because it can assist some students and their education.
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    Mitchell Duncan
    lun 08/02/2016 - 23:08
    Mitchell Duncan
    This common core math problem is the epitome of everything wrong with current education in America. The teacher failed to point out where in the problem it said to estimate. This creates a negative light for common core education in general and teachers who don't explain how to do the work.
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    Nicholas Walker
    lun 08/02/2016 - 23:11
    Nicholas Walker
    This is depicting the teacher as an incapable individual and showing how flawed common core is. Some people might side with the student and say that the problem is not a good example of estimation. Although this is also a form of hasty generalization as it is hard to believe that all math problems are that strange.
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    Clifton189
    lun 08/02/2016 - 23:17
    Clifton189
    This image is an example of propaganda because it is severely misleading. The reason to why this is misleading because although it's making the student seem like they are knowledgeable of the topic because of the math that she gave, she still got the question wrong. Maybe because the math topic was estimation? Then the answer would be wrong.
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    IsisC
    mar 09/02/2016 - 00:30
    IsisC
    This is propaganda towards common cores math tests. They use an example to emphasize the disagreement about how the tests are being made.
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    Brendan D
    mar 09/02/2016 - 01:06
    Brendan D
    I think Common Core is oversimplified yet can cause more confusion than is necessary. When a student can properly answer a math question, but gets the answer wrong because they didn't estimate, that seems completely unreasonable.
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    Alyssa Schulwitz
    mar 09/02/2016 - 01:58
    Alyssa Schulwitz
    This propaganda is using pathos because it evokes anger and rage into both the students and parents of children who are forced to take common core- math in particular. The student may have been learning estimation, but there's nothing to show what exactly the question was asking. If it wasn't estimation that the question was asking for, then yes, the student was correct. This math question in particular does not specify on what the student should be doing to get the answer, so therefore the student should've gotten at least half a point of credit. It is also hasty generalization, because maybe the other math questions on the page specified what the student was supposed to do to get the answer.
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    Sam Symes
    mar 09/02/2016 - 02:03
    Sam Symes
    This is propaganda because it utilizes the emotions (pathos) of many families that may be impacted by Common Core. This would provoke the viewers to feel distaste toward Common Core and toward the teachers who are implementing Common Core. This utilizes the fallacy hasty generalization because this is only a section of the homework. This is only one example of what Common Core brings to the table and without being able to view the rest of the questions, and the lesson that the student may have been apart of during the school day, there is no way to truly judge this. This puts Common Core in a completely negative light and is not based on any evidence.
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    jeckhaus
    mar 09/02/2016 - 02:05
    jeckhaus
    First of all, certain aspects of Common Core are absolutely absurd. The fact that a child lost points on this problem is undoubtedly unjust and unfair to them. The instructions state nothing regarding estimation, and even if they did, estimation on such a small scale needs to allow for more variance and "error." This Facebook post utilizes logos and pathos to try to prove its point. It appeals to the viewers sense of logic, in the sense that the picture shows a completely valid answer and the viewer can easily reason that this answer should be correct. It also shows the teacher marking points off, which is using pathos by appealing to the viewers empathy for the child that this "correct answer" did not receive full credit. However, this post is, in a way, ad misericordiam due to the fact that this parent most likely has no degree or authority on teaching, and they are simply trying to make the viewer feel bad to get them to support their cause.
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    Zoe Hodge
    mar 09/02/2016 - 02:38
    Zoe Hodge
    This propaganda uses pathos to connect to the reader. It plays on the reader's emotions because it brings up the anger and the annoyance the children and parents feel when they have to take or learn the common core standards. This test is unfair because although the student didn't show mastery of the topic,which was estimation, it didn't specify what they were supposed to be mastering in. If I were to answer this question, I would write the the same as the child did because that seems like a reasonable answer. I think that they should specify what they want the child to answer, so they could get all of their points and pass the exams.
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    FUDGE CAKES
    mar 09/02/2016 - 04:24
    FUDGE CAKES
    This propaganda is effective because many people are able to relate to Common Core because we have either took a Common Core class or was asked to help someone taking a Common Core class. This is a clear example of how it make no sense and how it is hard to understand and that they aren't clear enough for someone to understand. Even teachers have problems with the standards. Parents can't really help their children with their homework because it is confusing.
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    Emma M.
    mar 09/02/2016 - 08:46
    Emma M.
    This form of propaganda is used to show why common core is not a correct, and should not be taught in schools. Hasty generalization and poisoning the well are used in this image. The person with the issue does not like common core but never showed the aspects that are helpful. The person also creates a bad image for common core which causes people to get the impression that it is not helpful and it is somewhat illogical.
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    Spencer
    mer 10/02/2016 - 01:59
    Spencer
    This is an effective piece of propaganda for several reasons. Primarily, it appeals to a broad audience using social media. The poster knows it will reach a large amount of people, due to the nature of social media, and facebook in particular. In addition, the poster is attempting to appeal to logos, in a roundabout way. As opposed to using logic, the post attempts to confuse the viewer and evoke outrage at the seemingly non sensible math in the picture. It does this by using logical fallacies, however. It presents a false premise, as it only shows one side of the argument, presenting the math to the viewer as something that it isn’t. Despite this, it is still an effective piece of propaganda.
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    katrina_m
    mer 10/02/2016 - 23:09
    katrina_m
    The more I read about Common Core the more I realize no one is really for the Common Core besides the school systems. The students do not understand the new ways to do things or the way teachers explain them really. It is causing many kids to be left behind or fall academically. Also pointing out the very respected view of the parents. Both things making this piece of propaganda very effective.
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    christian
    jeu 11/02/2016 - 23:15
    christian
    I feel this type of math is so dumb is it will confuse so many people I feel there is no need for estamition it should just be exact amounts so replace all the confusion
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    weston costello
    lun 22/02/2016 - 09:26
    weston costello
    I feel as if this shows just how the government is going to try and keep the lower class a little behind the upper class just to make sure we are all dumb and never catch on to the amount of manipulation they have on society. :COUGH: Trump...
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    Danny R
    mer 01/02/2017 - 22:37
    Danny R
    I believe that this picture is helpful, because, while it is inaccurate (the student is supposed to be practicing estimations, not subtraction), it shows that using a problem that could easily be solved without estimation is a flaw in the Common Core program's curriculum.
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    Ryan
    jeu 02/02/2017 - 03:15
    Ryan
    This disregards the fact that the problem may have been to practice rounding. The skill of rounding is important and should not be seen as something stupid
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    Konrad S
    jeu 02/02/2017 - 23:36
    Konrad S
    I think this is beneficial. Students should learn to solve problems their own way, instead of following a specific set of rules.
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    Lexie Zeppos
    jeu 02/02/2017 - 23:38
    Lexie Zeppos
    Shows how our school system is messed up. Beneficial because it shows how tests and grading are contradicted my teachers and how they can be in the wrong while it's harmful because of what the children are learning
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    Mitch K
    jeu 02/02/2017 - 23:40
    Mitch K
    This ad is beneficial because it shows how messed up the common core grading seems to be, and it is convincing of how wrong it seems.
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    Annie
    ven 03/02/2017 - 01:04
    Annie
    I think this is harmful because we aren't being given the whole story. The school assignment could be to estimate the answer, which is an important skill to learn.
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    Nicole C
    ven 03/02/2017 - 03:39
    Nicole C
    I believe that this is merely a student trying to vent their frustration in a public setting. It can be viewed as beneficial because it brings awareness to people that the new teaching system is bad, but it can also be harmful because the directions do say to estimate, the skill that is being taught.
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    Elizabeth
    lun 06/02/2017 - 00:06
    Elizabeth
    I don't think this is beneficial, or harmful. It could go both ways. Beneficial because it shows how unfair the school system is, but also harmful because we do not know the complete story.
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    Katie Gault
    lun 06/02/2017 - 09:32
    Katie Gault
    Were i to see this on social media, I would likely agree with whoever posted it, and begin thinking common core is a bad thing. That might say more about me than about the propaganda, but I still think it could influence observers harmfully.

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